Episode #165

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Evil Eye

The "Melvin" name was most likely made up. Either by the rogues, or by the sender.

Being "Melvined" is having someone pull your underwear all the way up over your own head.
"We'll get that information to you later" - Richard Feynman to Mr. Rodgers.

Jayhox

Quote from: Evil Eye on September 21, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Being "Melvined" is having someone pull your underwear all the way up over your own head.

and in related use, it refers to the wool being pulled way up over your own eyes...

Evil Eye

Quote from: Jayhox on September 21, 2008, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: Evil Eye on September 21, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Being "Melvined" is having someone pull your underwear all the way up over your own head.

and in related use, it refers to the wool being pulled way up over your own eyes...

Precicely
"We'll get that information to you later" - Richard Feynman to Mr. Rodgers.

maydont

Quote from: Evil Eye on September 21, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: Jayhox on September 21, 2008, 08:48:56 PM
Quote from: Evil Eye on September 21, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
Being "Melvined" is having someone pull your underwear all the way up over your own head.

and in related use, it refers to the wool being pulled way up over your own eyes...

Precicely

The wool pulled over the fool...nice.

seaotter



Recognize the connection?

Jayhox

Quote from: seaotter on September 21, 2008, 09:17:40 PM


Recognize the connection?

That fish saw Bigfoot and who are we to doubt him?

seaotter

Quote from: Jayhox on September 21, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: seaotter on September 21, 2008, 09:17:40 PM


Recognize the connection?

That fish saw Bigfoot and who are we to doubt him?

Too hard? Arrrren't up to it?

Danger Mouse

#22
Very nice episode guys :)

i particularly loved the logical fallacy.

however, the max weight of a black hole in the science or fiction needs a lot of follow up...

for example, what would happen if two 10billion solar mass black holes collided?

I'm going to store this under 'highly theoretical and not very likely' along with Tom Cruise ever being normal again until i go look into it further.

So far, a quick (admittedly not exhaustively thorough) Google search has only brought up references to a single article or slightly reworded versions that are VERY light on any specifics.
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Anders

I think they missed the "Argumentum from Capslock" in Name that Logical Fallacy. Everyone knows that arguments are more effective IF THEY ARE WRITTEN LIKE THIS!!!!! Don't you agree?

Dublo7

On the topic of the mainstream media getting things wrong; I saw a news report on Channel 7 News (Australian news channel) a few hours after I listened to the podcast, which said the Large Hadron Collider was going to enable scientists to "see what is was like before the big bang".
I nearly fell out of my chair.

mindme

Yeah I couldn't help but think SGU was trolled with the Melvin email. But if you check the General forum there's a real letter to the editor of a woo magazine that sounds not unlike Melvin's email.

Anyone have a link to that space object that got bright for 100 days? SGU's show notes have been updated with this news item.
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Danger Mouse

Quote from: Dublo7 on September 22, 2008, 05:07:12 AM
On the topic of the mainstream media getting things wrong; I saw a news report on Channel 7 News (Australian news channel) a few hours after I listened to the podcast, which said the Large Hadron Collider was going to enable scientists to "see what is was like before the big bang".
I nearly fell out of my chair.

LOL

that reporter definately gets some sort of award for ignorance
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Mike

Melvin's Email:

Quote from: Melvin LeeI think that u and all those mofos on that show are full of shit. How can u honestly say NO! there is no bigfoot just because I've never seen it, NO! crop circles aren't real because I'm obviously the creator of this world and I know EVERYTHING about.

U pussies or just.......ugh, words can't describe how I feel about u guys. WHO R U to tell some that they didn't see something with their own eyes and what they saw was an illusion. plz reread over WHO R U. U r human, u r not some all knowing god. U cannot get mad at someone for jus reporting what they saw, where u there too?, so how could u possibly say they didn't see that they thought they saw. Their jus reporting it. This world is full of secrets and jus because it seems mundane doesn't mean its fake. Another thing. if hundreds of people AROUND THE WORLD r seeing something (bigfoot, ufos, ghost), then it has to be true. Not every situation was a hoax r the product of an over active mind. all I'm saying is WE R ALL HUMANS u have the same brain as me, u r not the god who created this world, therefore u cannot say confidently that something's not there, when it obviously is.

To which I replied:

The maytricks haz u.
"We're just so damn exciting." - Dr. Steven Novella, MD

Shivierie

Quote from: Dublo7 on September 22, 2008, 05:07:12 AM
On the topic of the mainstream media getting things wrong; I saw a news report on Channel 7 News (Australian news channel) a few hours after I listened to the podcast, which said the Large Hadron Collider was going to enable scientists to "see what is was like before the big bang".
I nearly fell out of my chair.

The kids at my school were scared  that we wouldn't be alive. It was very amusing attending classes.

Evil Eye

Quote from: Mike on September 22, 2008, 07:28:11 PM
Melvin's Email:

Quote from: Melvin LeeI think that u and all those mofos on that show are full of shit. How can u honestly say NO! there is no bigfoot just because I've never seen it, NO! crop circles aren't real because I'm obviously the creator of this world and I know EVERYTHING about.

U pussies or just.......ugh, words can't describe how I feel about u guys. WHO R U to tell some that they didn't see something with their own eyes and what they saw was an illusion. plz reread over WHO R U. U r human, u r not some all knowing god. U cannot get mad at someone for jus reporting what they saw, where u there too?, so how could u possibly say they didn't see that they thought they saw. Their jus reporting it. This world is full of secrets and jus because it seems mundane doesn't mean its fake. Another thing. if hundreds of people AROUND THE WORLD r seeing something (bigfoot, ufos, ghost), then it has to be true. Not every situation was a hoax r the product of an over active mind. all I'm saying is WE R ALL HUMANS u have the same brain as me, u r not the god who created this world, therefore u cannot say confidently that something's not there, when it obviously is.

To which I replied:

The maytricks haz u.



How old is this "Melvin"?

My son is 14 and asked this question (and got his answer) on the BAUT forum...

....the subject was Speed/Time

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First of all, let me start out saying that I am not EvilEye. I am his son, Brandon.
I am fourteen, in 9th grade, and am in all Honors classes. I asked my dad's opinion on this question. :wall: That was a BAD idea. I did not get the impression that he understood me.
So, here it is.
Assume you are in the future. Wormholes and time travel are obtainable, though only available to the top scientists. You happen :whistle: to be one.You have access to a machine which creates a wormhole that can also warp time to your liking. Don't ask how. Communication is faster than light as of this future. In fact, communication is instantaneous.
You decide to go back in time one year to a planet which is completely uninhabited about thirty-four light years away. You bring with you a couch. Why a couch? Well, it is really ugly, and you wanted to get rid of it anyway. Besides that, it could be no easier to pick out against the landscape, making your experiment just that much less complicated.
You have also put many instant transmitters in the couch.
When you come back, you check your computer for the transmission signals from the couch. :hand: But, before doing that, you return to the world through a same-time wormhole and see the couch five feet in front of you. You are now sure it is still there. Using a hand-held device, you check every transmitter to be sure they all still work. They do. :)
You return through the wormhole. NOW you check the computer for the transmissions. My question lies here....

Now I am not doubting that the transmissions would still be instant, what I don't understand is if you would recieve the transmissions or not. I am wondering, if you changed the space-time continuum (using a variable which should not affect the future in any unforeseen way for safety reasons) would that change instantaneously rewrite the entirety of the continuum? OR... would the change travel outward in a sphere at the speed of light; thus making a sphere of an alternate timeline which would constantly expand at, once again, the speed of light until it consumes every last tiny piece of the universe. :doh:

For anybody who I lost somewhere along the way, (Points at own dad who could only come up with the conclusion of my question being incorrect...), think of it like this.
You take a piece of the fabric of the space-time continuum. Imagine it is an actual fabric. The question I pose is this. Would changing an event somewhere around the middle be like changing the color of the thread from then on? Or would it be comparable to spilling a dye on the fabric; the dye then radiating out through space and forward through time?:think:

In all honesty, I thought this one up on the bus ride to school one morning. It has plauged me ever since because I would never be able to find out.:boohoo:

If you vote for an answer, and you have ANY imput beyond that answer, please post anyway!

(P.S. My dad told me that there was a spell check in here, and I cannot find it. Sorry for the typos.)

(If there are any! :p )

Which one is more the norm?

"We'll get that information to you later" - Richard Feynman to Mr. Rodgers.